Hello all.Its my first time on here.
Ive got an old Pel Job EB 406. Its been great since Ive had it which I only use occasionally.
Ive recently changed the final drive with an aftermarket model. I put the hydraulics pipes as they were on the old unit. I had problems from that point and the second speed would not work. I got in touch with the supplier who told me which ports to use. These have been now done correctly as far as I am aware.The problem has been that since Ive done this, the engine keeps on dying whether I track or use the machine in any way. The second speed still does not work.
I am a complete novice with this and Im not a mechanic. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks very much
Engine stalls on Pel Job
-
Topic author - Posts: 4
- Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:58 pm
- Real name: Ian
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Flag:
-
- Moderator
- Posts: 8705
- Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:36 pm
- Real name: Jeremy Rowland
- Has thanked: 1888 times
- Been thanked: 1704 times
Re: Engine stalls on Pel Job
Hi Ian and welcome to the site somebody here may be able to help you; I know that Julian Carder has a couple of these machines and has restored one he may be able to offer you some advice, he does have an account on this site so if you look under the JCB topics you should come across it, just pm him, any probs and I'll pm you his number.
Jeremy
Jeremy
-
- Posts: 204
- Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:36 pm
- Real name: Gerard
- Location: Currently OZ
- Has thanked: 17 times
- Been thanked: 60 times
Re: Engine stalls on Pel Job
Hi Ian
quick question, why did you change the final drive? motor failure or drive failure? can you disconnect the 2 speed at all? or check the case drain out of the new motor?
Gerard
quick question, why did you change the final drive? motor failure or drive failure? can you disconnect the 2 speed at all? or check the case drain out of the new motor?
Gerard
-
Topic author - Posts: 4
- Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:58 pm
- Real name: Ian
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Flag:
Re: Engine stalls on Pel Job
Hi Gerard.
The gearing seized and would not drive
They told me to disconnect the 2nd speed pipe and drain and put in container. Start machine, put in 2nd and whichever pipe sprayed to connect to middle port. There was no difference in the amount of spay with the second switch on or off.
The gearing seized and would not drive
They told me to disconnect the 2nd speed pipe and drain and put in container. Start machine, put in 2nd and whichever pipe sprayed to connect to middle port. There was no difference in the amount of spay with the second switch on or off.
-
- Posts: 2358
- Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:28 pm
- Real name: fred evans
- Has thanked: 1295 times
- Been thanked: 1111 times
- Flag:
Re: Engine stalls on Pel Job
Hi,
Sounds to me as though you may have a problem with the rotary distributor, that's the bit that transfers the fluid from the revolving top end to the static base.
All your travel motor feeds will be routed through there including the two speed line. I have known a locked up travel box to blow distributor seals and even cause distortion of the grooves in which the seals sit.
The confusing thing is that I cant see that a problem here could load up the engine when using bucket, arm, boom or slew as that part of the system is independent of the travel circuit.
The only part of the system they share apart from the pump/ pumps is the main relief valve and the return line and filter where the oil returns to tank/ reservoir. A restricted return line filter could load up the system and make the engine struggle . Worth checking.
The only way to be sure what's going on is to get someone to run a pressure check for you.
Good luck.
Fred
Sounds to me as though you may have a problem with the rotary distributor, that's the bit that transfers the fluid from the revolving top end to the static base.
All your travel motor feeds will be routed through there including the two speed line. I have known a locked up travel box to blow distributor seals and even cause distortion of the grooves in which the seals sit.
The confusing thing is that I cant see that a problem here could load up the engine when using bucket, arm, boom or slew as that part of the system is independent of the travel circuit.
The only part of the system they share apart from the pump/ pumps is the main relief valve and the return line and filter where the oil returns to tank/ reservoir. A restricted return line filter could load up the system and make the engine struggle . Worth checking.
The only way to be sure what's going on is to get someone to run a pressure check for you.
Good luck.
Fred
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests