Broken Conrod.....

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Re: Broken Conrod.....

Post #11 by Jeremy Rowland » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:28 pm

From reading this thread I would guess your boss may get a big bill for the repair as he "limped it back" to the garage instead of getting it towed back. :think:
What probably started as a broken cam developed into engine annihilation :think: as my old foreman used to say "its just developed" :lol:

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Re: Broken Conrod.....

Post #12 by tctractors » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:26 pm

Jeremy, when I point out something is starting to play up I get told to " Let it Develope" is this the same thing??? I think I should be told???

p.s. those back casings on the V8 16 ltr motors are right dogs for cracking and falling to bits


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Re: Broken Conrod.....

Post #13 by Jeremy Rowland » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:30 pm

tctractors wrote:Jeremy, when I point out something is starting to play up I get told to " Let it Develope" is this the same thing??? I think I should be told???


Yes Tony it most certainly is :lol: :lol: my old foreman used to come upto me and say "you know that so & so you told me about a couple of weeks back? Well its just developed so you'll have to go out to it" :lol:

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Re: Broken Conrod.....

Post #14 by Hugh Jaleak » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:56 pm

Jeremy, thats precisely why I stopped! No way was I carrying on until someone gave me permission. Obvious something was amiss, we couldn't tilt the cab as we didnt have a bar, though it is debatable at that stage if anything would have been obvious as to what was wrong. I wonder if an oil seal had gone due to the cam problem, hence the oil leak, then continuing to drive it caused the total failure....

'Let it develop' was one of the standard responses at a previous place, when I was on the council contract. 'It's meant to do that', 'a design fault', 'get out the passenger side' (when defecting a broken cab step that later cost them £3500 for an injury claim), were among the excuses given by the fitter.... :roll:

The change from Perkins to Cummins power in the refuse vehicles caused a few issues too. Due to the low cab design radiator size was limited so to achieve adequate cooling the fan was uprated. Fine, until you went on the landfill during dry weather when the resulting dust cloud dropped visibility to zero, and then the lorry left site with half that dust and rubbish now firmly wedged between rad and intercooler.

I saw the Foreman on the landfill one morning tipping his first load, his lorry was overheating then. (Good jet of steam coming from expansion bottle!) Next time I saw him he was trying to limp the lorry back to the yard, (with a Police escort!), it seemed to have lost power on 4 cylinders, and was pouring with smoke..... It didnt make it, the Manitou had to be deployed to drag it back the last few hundred yards. He'd carried on with it and cooked the engine, such was the temperature reached the end of the dipstick had actually melted. :shock:


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Re: Broken Conrod.....

Post #15 by Jeremy Rowland » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:10 am

Hugh Jaleak wrote:Jeremy, thats precisely why I stopped! No way was I carrying on until someone gave me permission. Obvious something was amiss, we couldn't tilt the cab as we didnt have a bar, though it is debatable at that stage if anything would have been obvious as to what was wrong. I wonder if an oil seal had gone due to the cam problem, hence the oil leak, then continuing to drive it caused the total failure....

'Let it develop' was one of the standard responses at a previous place, when I was on the council contract. 'It's meant to do that', 'a design fault', 'get out the passenger side' (when defecting a broken cab step that later cost them £3500 for an injury claim), were among the excuses given by the fitter.... :roll:

The change from Perkins to Cummins power in the refuse vehicles caused a few issues too. Due to the low cab design radiator size was limited so to achieve adequate cooling the fan was uprated. Fine, until you went on the landfill during dry weather when the resulting dust cloud dropped visibility to zero, and then the lorry left site with half that dust and rubbish now firmly wedged between rad and intercooler.

I saw the Foreman on the landfill one morning tipping his first load, his lorry was overheating then. (Good jet of steam coming from expansion bottle!) Next time I saw him he was trying to limp the lorry back to the yard, (with a Police escort!), it seemed to have lost power on 4 cylinders, and was pouring with smoke..... It didnt make it, the Manitou had to be deployed to drag it back the last few hundred yards. He'd carried on with it and cooked the engine, such was the temperature reached the end of the dipstick had actually melted. :shock:



And thats why Nick you did the right thing :thumbup: you could not be held accountable for the logical and eventual outcome!
Lets see now if it was your own car you would not of been daft enough to try and limp it home, engines generally don't make funny knocking noises unless there is something drastically wrong and common sense tells most people this!! :think:

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Re: Broken Conrod.....

Post #16 by Hugh Jaleak » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:21 am

I have breakdown cover on my car for precisely that reason! (I'm of the belief if I have it I wont need it, worked so far! Fingers crossed!)

Reminds me of my dozy brother. He's clueless when it comes to cars, and has quite a history of wrecking them..... 1st car was a Metro ( :roll: ), he wrote that off attempting a handbrake turn..... Next a MG Metro turbo, that ate front tyres, Dad got garage to look at it. They said it had been in a serious collision, had been poorly repaired and in their opinion was lethal. Scrapped that, he bought an Austin Montego. Overheated halfway through his 20mile journey to Northampton for work. 'I didnt know what to do' he said, 'so I carried on'.... One cooked engine later...... Lost count of how many cars he's had since, all go same way. I think he has the scrapyard on speed dial now. :lol:


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