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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2561 by Jeremy Rowland » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:31 pm

Mrsmackpaul wrote:In the bottom photo Fred I gather thats a trailed scraper on the float, what controls the front wheels from wondering all over the road when loaded like that ??
Do they spin the drawbar around and hook it on the rear of the float ?

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That's a great question Paul :thumbup: also wonder how they got it on the trailer as it looks like a 'knock out' back axle job?

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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2562 by Osgood » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:00 am

pv83 wrote:....Could be they used a additional axle..?...


Interesting - yes it is quite possible, but depends how it fitted - the one shown below (only pic I can find) has the extra axle set further back, but the one in your York advert pics show it quite close to the tractor's axle, just like the recovery picture.
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Also depends on date of the low loader picture - would it have been taken before the York attachment was developed?
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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2563 by FOWLER MAN » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:20 pm

Jeremy Rowland wrote:
Mrsmackpaul wrote:In the bottom photo Fred I gather thats a trailed scraper on the float, what controls the front wheels from wondering all over the road when loaded like that ??
Do they spin the drawbar around and hook it on the rear of the float ?

Paul


That's a great question Paul :thumbup: also wonder how they got it on the trailer as it looks like a 'knock out' back axle job?

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I never saw them load a scraper like this so I asked an Ex. Ryans man. :thumbup:
Apparently the scraper bowl was blocked up on the trailer bed. Then with the trailer jacked up and the scraper wheels turned first one side then the other there was just room to wheel in the two back bogies.
The drawbar was then secured so that the scraper wheels were ridged.
I must say the scraper must have been well chained down not to move side to side on the turns when the scraper wheels contacted the road :?: :?: :?:


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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2564 by pv83 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:20 pm

Osgood wrote:
pv83 wrote:....Could be they used a additional axle..?...


Interesting - yes it is quite possible, but depends how it fitted - the one shown below (only pic I can find) has the extra axle set further back, but the one in your York advert pics show it quite close to the tractor's axle, just like the recovery picture.
York Bonus Loader.jpg

Also depends on date of the low loader picture - would it have been taken before the York attachment was developed?
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I'm not quite sure when the York invention came on the market... Other option is that it was a in-house solution? Didn't Sid Harrison converted some Scammell's just like that?


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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2565 by pv83 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:26 pm

Stumbled upon these gems... don't know if they've been posted before...

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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2566 by pv83 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:27 pm

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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2567 by pv83 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:29 pm

FOWLER MAN wrote:
Jeremy Rowland wrote:
Mrsmackpaul wrote:In the bottom photo Fred I gather thats a trailed scraper on the float, what controls the front wheels from wondering all over the road when loaded like that ??
Do they spin the drawbar around and hook it on the rear of the float ?

Paul


That's a great question Paul :thumbup: also wonder how they got it on the trailer as it looks like a 'knock out' back axle job?

Jeremy

Hi,
I never saw them load a scraper like this so I asked an Ex. Ryans man. :thumbup:
Apparently the scraper bowl was blocked up on the trailer bed. Then with the trailer jacked up and the scraper wheels turned first one side then the other there was just room to wheel in the two back bogies.
The drawbar was then secured so that the scraper wheels were ridged.
I must say the scraper must have been well chained down not to move side to side on the turns when the scraper wheels contacted the road :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2568 by hair bear » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:55 pm

The Pickfords picture - Why are the cab windows paneled over?
The Antar picture - Is that a Rottinoff behind?
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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2569 by Osgood » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:04 pm

hair bear wrote:...The Antar picture - Is that a Rottinoff behind?


Could it be a Pacific? Not a home-made cab I've seen before. The load looks like a Ransomes 490 shovel, but plate says 442?

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Re: Classic pictures Update 19/09/2017

Post #2570 by Osgood » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:11 pm

pv83 wrote:..... Didn't Sid Harrison converted some Scammell's just like that?



It looks like Harrison stretched the chassis and added a middle non-steer axle supported on airbags. See:

http://www.roadranger.co.nz/2013/09/sca ... pbook.html

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