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Gone Swimmin'

Post #1 by hair bear » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:29 pm

What would the likeley weight of this crane be? Some news sites are quoting 60 tons but on four axles I seriously doubt it.

http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2013-02-01/picture-crane-falls-into-canal/

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Post #2 by tim » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:10 pm

hair bear wrote:What would the likeley weight of this crane be? Some news sites are quoting 60 tons but on four axles I seriously doubt it.

http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2013-02-01/picture-crane-falls-into-canal/

Edited to add the link (fool!).

I think mobile cranes are allowed up to 12 tonnes per axle for road use Rob so the crane would probably weigh no more than 48 tonnes unless some extra counterweights were added on site
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Re: Gone Swimmin'

Post #3 by brian crowther » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:56 pm

Mobile cranes can run at 16.5 tonnes at a max speed of 40 mph on uk roads, We have the heaviest axle loadings in the world. Brian C.


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Re: Gone Swimmin'

Post #4 by Wee Heavy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:52 pm

tim wrote:
hair bear wrote:What would the likeley weight of this crane be? Some news sites are quoting 60 tons but on four axles I seriously doubt it.

http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2013-02-01/picture-crane-falls-into-canal/

Edited to add the link (fool!).

I think mobile cranes are allowed up to 12 tonnes per axle for road use Rob so the crane would probably weigh no more than 48 tonnes unless some extra counterweights were added on site
:thumbup: Tim


Tim,

Compare the spec sheet that Jardine quote for the crane with page 3 of the factory specification

http://www.jardinescranes.co.uk/assets/code/50492

http://www.cranesuk.net/images/stories/pdf%20downloads/ATF_90G-4.pdf

It runs at 48 Tonnes with 6.5 Tonnes of counterweight and fly jib in Europe

Jardines/Specialist run it with maximum counterweight for a total of 64 Tonnes

If you check the specification details of other European Cranes you will see they are all quoting 12 Tonnes per axle with partial counterweight to comply with mainland Europe travel regs

By the time you add the weight of the large outrigger discs that you can see in the cage on the back of the crane, the chains/lifting tackle carried on the crane and anything else you can hide on the crane, you are up to the 16.5 Tonnes per axle that Brian has confirmed.

Looks like this one will be a difficult recovery because they will not want to risk getting the rescue cranes close to the canal bank.

I have heard of the Slingers having to have a Track Safety Ticket for working on the railways but these Slingers will have to have a PADI

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Post #5 by hair bear » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:26 pm

Thanks for the responces, I wasn't aware of the higher axle limit, learn something new every day!
Am I right in thinking two rear tyres have failed as well?
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Post #6 by gah1950 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:41 pm

brian crowther wrote:Mobile cranes can run at 16.5 tonnes at a max speed of 40 mph on uk roads, We have the heaviest axle loadings in the world. Brian C.

hello brian,
the rule for running 16.5 tons in the uk is subject to highways approval,some authorities will only let you run at 75% of the maximum of 16.5 tons,so be very aware where you are travelling.
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Re: Gone Swimmin'

Post #7 by hair bear » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:03 pm

If a LandRover doesn't leak oil, it's run out.


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