Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

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Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #1 by Soulman » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:02 pm

Hi

I have a query about an issue i am having with a Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower with a 51HP Kubota diesel engine.

The mower cuts grass fine on flat going or going down a hill but going up against a hill, the engine comes under heavy load and power drops until i stop and then the engine will regain power again.

New fuel filters (pre filter and main) were fitted, checked that diesel cap valve was clean, checked that there are no fuel leaks etc, cleaned out air filter. The mower starts very easily and engine runs smooth.

Bit of a head scratcher this one, so any suggestions welcome from anyone that might have experience with these mowers. :)

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Re: Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #2 by Jeremy Rowland » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:05 pm

Does this engine have a fuel pump to supply the fuel or is it gravity fed? If it has a lift pump then I would check that out.

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Re: Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #3 by Whitlock 505 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:00 am

Is the mower hydrostatic drive? Could be that the filters are blocked under suction load going up hill and draining the power of the engine trying to drive it forward hence no problem when on flat or going downhill as there is not as much demand on fluid to drive it?
Could be a stab in the dark as I'm not familiar with these mowers.

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Re: Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #4 by Soulman » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:15 pm

Hi Ian and Jeremy,

Thanks for responding.

Ian, yes its has full-time-4-wheel hydrostatic drive, (2-wheel for transport), 15 cu.in front wheel motors, 12 cu.in rear wheel motors and then cross-flow parallel drive differential lock. Your theory is interesting. The cutting decks on this models are also driven by hydraulic motors.

Jeremy, yes there is fuel pump in this model and i will check that out but it appears to be generally ok.

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Re: Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #5 by Soulman » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:46 pm

Thanks to everyone for their help, I will update when i resolve the issue.


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Re: Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #6 by Jeremy Rowland » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:47 am

Soulman wrote:Thanks to everyone for their help, I will update when i resolve the issue.



It would not hurt or be costly to try the engine on a gravity fuel feed then if that cures the issue you would know that the fuel lift pump would be the most likely culprit. Hope you get it sorted okay. :thumbup:

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Re: Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #7 by Soulman » Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:19 pm

Hi

I got to look at the machine at weekend. I observed the engine running for quite a while and noticed that an air pocket exists in the diesel pre filter which sits vertically. ie fuel tank line is connected to the bottom of the filter housing and the other end goes to the electric fuel pump. Its a clear plastic housing with a filter membrane inside but there is a air pocket at the very top of the filter. I guess there should be no air in there?

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Re: Ransomes T51D/951D Batwing Mower, losing power under Load

Post #8 by Jeremy Rowland » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:09 pm

Soulman wrote:Hi

I got to look at the machine at weekend. I observed the engine running for quite a while and noticed that an air pocket exists in the diesel pre filter which sits vertically. ie fuel tank line is connected to the bottom of the filter housing and the other end goes to the electric fuel pump. Its a clear plastic housing with a filter membrane inside but there is a air pocket at the very top of the filter. I guess there should be no air in there?

Thanks
Soulman



I doubt that this is the issue but pre-filters don't cost the earth so changing it would not hurt; at least you will have eliminated one possible cause. :thumbup:

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