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Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:46 pm
by french phil
hi all where to start,last year i managed to rescue a jcb 3c 1965 from a field over here in france and have restored it (saved it from the scrap yard) to a reasonable state ie second hand fordson major engine ,sintered clutch , rebiult the cabine ,made a new door , new glass seals etc .it works well .the other day i was round a friends and he said he new of a dumper in a field so around i went ,sadly as yet no pictures but if any one has any idea please reply
its got two rams under the front
two cylinder air cooled diesel (i think it a ph2)
swivel front bucket
chain drive at the rear
crank start
he want a 100 euros for it ,its in about the same condition as my jake rusty,but he says it was going about two years ago .

can i down load any manuals for the engine?
thanks phil

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:57 pm
by essexpete
Scrap prices should more than cover that.

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:05 pm
by rock mover
French Phil,
I have engine diagrams,if it has PH2 engine ?
Tell me what you nead and I will check what I have.

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:12 pm
by french phil
thanks rock mover
yes its got the ph2 engine phoned the guy tonight ,would be great if you have any gen ill try and post some pics as soon as i get it back here, and look for serial plate
thanks phil

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:15 am
by french phil
hi all finally got the beast home today so no pics as yet but a few more details
from the pictures ive seen of julians rebuild mine seems to be a sprite/nimbus? its got five stud wheels,two cyl petter ,chain drive ,brake shoe clutch ,swivel bucket ,hydraulic lift,twin rams under front,brakes inop,so ill get some photos soon on here cheers for now phil,where is the best place for spares? clutch shoes are they mini /austin?

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:28 am
by essexpete
The Nimbus was a 15cwt and the Orion (IIRR) was the next model up at 20 or 25cwt. Both had single cyl so yours must be a bit more of a beast.

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:18 am
by Julian
french phil wrote:hi all finally got the beast home today so no pics as yet but a few more details
from the pictures ive seen of julians rebuild mine seems to be a sprite/nimbus? its got five stud wheels,two cyl petter ,chain drive ,brake shoe clutch ,swivel bucket ,hydraulic lift,twin rams under front,brakes inop,so ill get some photos soon on here cheers for now phil,where is the best place for spares? clutch shoes are they mini /austin?


Mine's the Orion model, (1.5ton capacity I think) I'd say that yours is a more recent (and bigger) model.

Someone told me clutch shoes are Triumph Herald. I bet you don't need them, the ones on mine were fit for another 40 years, but I did need another clutch release bearing.

Hurry up with the pics!

Julian.

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:13 am
by french phil
hi all thanks for the intrest,after much searching and long hours contacting different people ive got the info from thwaites after steam cleaning the engine i found the plate on the right hand head ,chris has told me its a tusker swivel skip sold in 1969to oxford plant.ive stripped out the brakes they were all siezed solid freed them all off with some gentle heat,replaced the brake pedal pivot ,next is the small drive shaft to the hydraulic pump uj absolutely shot this turns out to be a mini /lots of other vehicle part same as the oil filter mini automatic if you need a cataouge of ujs go to hardy spicer and get the pdf very helpfull.will put some more pics up as i go along .is that correct julian about the brake shoes for the clutch? by the way nice renovation.

Re: Will it be worth it ?dumper in a field

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:38 pm
by Julian
french phil wrote: .is that correct julian about the brake shoes for the clutch?.


I can't say for sure, it's just what I was told. I've just replied on another thread about the clutch - you can adjust it in the same way as you would the brake shoes on a car. It's just a square drive (I think) and if it's not siezed you depress the clutch pedal, wind the adjuster in until the clutch binds up and then back off a quarter turn or so.

With such a small engine power I think it unlikely the friction material has been worn down to the rivets!

Julian.