two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

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two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #1 by longdog1970 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:14 pm

HI
Im new to this forum and wondered if anyone can help me? I've acquired a dumper but don't know the age of it or what type it is, I'm after a set of handbrake shoes that fit on the end of the gearbox before the prop shaft. if anyone could help me identify the machine and where I can get a set of shoes from? I've attached a few pictures.
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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #2 by longdog1970 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:18 pm

[quote="longdog1970"]HI
Im new to this forum and wondered if anyone can help me? I've acquired a dumper but don't know the age of it or what type it is, I'm after a set of handbrake shoes that fit on the end of the gearbox before the prop shaft. if anyone could help me identify the machine and where I can get a set of shoes from? I've attached a few pictures.
Cliff


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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #3 by longdog1970 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:23 pm

as you can see I'm no good with computers, I've tried to upload different pictures but the same one keeps coming up.


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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #4 by Jeremy Rowland » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:45 pm

Hi Clifford welcome to the forum :wave: taking a look at the photo you have posted, the dumper looks like a Thwaites to me, however I may stand to be corrected on that, somebody on here will definitely be able to point you in the right direction.

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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #5 by longdog1970 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:54 pm

Jeremy Rowland wrote:Hi Clifford welcome to the forum :wave: taking a look at the photo you have posted, the dumper looks like a Thwaites to me, however I may stand to be corrected on that, somebody on here will definitely be able to point you in the right direction.

Jeremy

Hi Jeremy

its got a lister Petter PH2 engine, on the side of the engine it has a plate with PH 2 85135 18hp on it, would that help to identify the year and model?
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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #6 by essexpete » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:01 pm

I would guess Thwaites from mid to late 70s when they switched to oil immersed brakes and the handbrake manually applied the service brakes. Could you get the shoes relined?


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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #7 by longdog1970 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:07 pm

it has front brakes only inside the axel, the handbrake attachment is on the gearbox not the axel, I will have a look for somewhere that relines brakes, is it a two ton would you know?


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Post #8 by longdog1970 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:08 pm

would you know what the other lever is for on the gearbox as well? hi and low maybe??


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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #9 by essexpete » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:54 pm

OK I had not realised there was an era of inboard brakes with a separate handbrake. Most of the smaller dumpers were only braked on the front axle even into the 90s. I can't rember whether or not my 2005 3 ton has rear brakes. Mid 90s Manitou telehandler was only braked on front.
I guess the 2nd lever, if part of the transmission, must be hi/lo or a simple forward/reverse shuttle. I would say the latter more likely. I am thinking you may have a 21/2 or 3 ton there as the skip looks larger and 6 stud rather than 5 stud axles compared to the old 2ton 4000 we used to have.


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Re: two ton dumper handbrake shoes needed

Post #10 by cobbadog » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:14 am

Almost any brake repair shop will be able to re-bond new lining material or you may even get lucky and find a set of riveted ones that you can do yourself.
This style of handbrake at the end of the gearbox is the same idea as on your Reggie parked in the background and just about every other 4wd vehicle and truck on the road today so this will be very easy to do.
some of these off road vehicles and tractor went over to oil immerse brakes around the period that this is being guessed at so again not unusual but I have never had to do any as yet.
Great find and welcome to the wonderful world of Dumpers.
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