Who built this excavator?????

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Re: Who built this excavator?????

Post #11 by FOWLER MAN » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:07 pm

mechman wrote:HI Fred.
I can't get me head around the ram configuration (Looks like both rams operating on same arm) also what lifts the boom.(excuse my thickness)
Norm.


Hi All,
Thanks for the interest.
Norm, I must be thick too, :? it takes a bit of working out. :think: Both rams do operate on the same arm. :wtf:
What happens is, when the arm ram on top is locked the lower ram takes over and pushes the whole thing up.
I wonder how long it took them to work out there was a better place to attatch that hoist ram. :roll: :lol:

I had to watch this video before the penny dropped. :? Check it out theres a lot more interesting stuff here, :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kh7jPoFUnk

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Re: Who built this excavator?????

Post #12 by mechman » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:19 pm

Hi Fred.
Got it now, mind you the truck sounds none to healthy. :D

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Re: Who built this excavator?????

Post #13 by FOWLER MAN » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:09 am

Ok Folks,
Time to come clean on this one now.
I had no idea about the Poclain connection till I stumbled on an article in "The Engineer Magazine" Nov 1955.
The article states quite clearly that the excavator was made by "Winget." See the relavent passage below.
It also goes on to describe the trencher pictured below.

Determined to find out more I researched Glasses Guide and everywhere else I could think of, all to no avail.
I then foumd an autobiograpy written by Mr Ray Hicks.
He was a development engineer who was appointed to Winget of Gloucester in the early 60s to rationalise and improve the product range of The Group and he starts the relavent chapter as follows,

The individual companies located on the site were:-
- E. Boydel, T/A Muir Hill Dumper.
- Slater & Walker Dumper.
- Gardiners of Gloucester.
- Moxey Ltd.
- Gloucester Railway Carriage and Wagons.
- Poclain Hydraulic Excavators.
- Redler Cranes.

They were all autonomous commercial units which had been aquired by Winget and in some cases were registered companies in their own right.
My job was to assess the technical viabillity of each of these companies and to reccomend development programmes.
I had to insure that they developed products that kept them in the top ranks of their particular line of business,"

He went on to say, "There was an equaly diverse range of companies at Rochester," for which he would also be responsible.

All this has led me to further research. I will post more shortly in my thread "The Way We Were" which I think will be more apropriate.
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Post #14 by Jeremy Rowland » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:35 pm

Thanks Fred :claphands: :thumbup: must have a closer look at Wingets history myself.

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Post #15 by hair bear » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:17 am

Anyone know anything about the Winget Airglide?
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Re: Who built this excavator?????

Post #16 by wiggy » Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:41 pm

a mate of mine had a very simmaler 1 to this in his yard yrs ago he told me it was for digging trenches for milatry use
but was superseded even b4 it was built
he bought it for the 4 wheel drive chassis and cut the machine up
yes i know but it was about 25 yr ago
he is long dead now so i cant even ask hi,m as he was a font of all knowlage on machines he owned or worked on
the older the plant , the more i like it ,
im dislesik so escuse my spelin gramer
I crushed my spine years ago and im soposed 2 b in a wheel chair
so every day when i wake up and my legs still work is like crimbo day


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Re: Who built this excavator?????

Post #17 by Britman » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:38 pm

Maybe it is something from Blaw Knox as they had a factory in Rochester,Kent
. As to the ram configuration, If they were operated by two separate controls and the top one was held ,the whole thing would move up or down..


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Re: Who built this excavator?????

Post #18 by Stormin » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:01 pm

mechman wrote:HI Fred.
I can't get me head around the ram configuration (Looks like both rams operating on same arm) also what lifts the boom.(excuse my thickness)
Norm.


It's a strange arrangement alright. A sort of parallelogram linkage.
My thinking is as follows: The lower ram will do most of the lifting but not without moving the arm outwards at the same time. This would have to be compensated for with use of the upper ram. The upper ram used on it's own would only move the dipper in and out not lift as it's inner pivot is on the same point as the fixed links.


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